5.25.2011

Why is abortion illegal for men but not women?

Now before we get off on the wrong foot here, I want to say that clearly the man who is the subject of the news article below was wrong in his actions. The title of this article is a bit satirical. You can't go violently attacking people in a civilized society. But having said that, I can empathize with the man, and would like to examine the deeper socio-economic issues behind this news brief...

Man charged with trying to abort his pregnant girlfriend

LIBERTY – A 20-year-old Liberty man has been charged with felony abortion in the second degree and other charges for allegedly punching his 17-year-old pregnant girlfriend in the stomach in an effort to abort the pregnancy.



Travis Mervine was also charged with third-degree assault, fourth-degree criminal mischief, second-degree unlawful imprisonment, criminal obstruction of breathing or blood circulation, and harassment in the second degree.


The girlfriend called police on May 22 from her mother’s house to report she had been held prisoner by Mervine at his home from May 21 through May 22 and while there, he punched her in the stomach.


Mervine was located and arrested on Lake Street in the Village of Liberty and while police were taking him to court for arraignment, he fled from an officer on foot, while handcuffed.


After a four hour manhunt, Liberty Police, assisted by a Fallsburg Police K-9 unit, State Police and the Sullivan County Sheriff’s Office, he was located at his father’s home in Liberty. He was also charged with felony escape in the second degree.


Mervine was arraigned and remanded to the Sullivan County Jail without bail.

http://www.midhudsonnews.com/News/2011/May/24/Mervine_arr-24May11.htm


Right off the bat I have a problem with this article. I don't know if it is just an error in reporting or not, but why is he being charged with felony abortion if it was only an attempt? We'll leave that technical question alone from here on out though, and focus instead on the deeper issues here.

Clearly we see a young man, trapped by circumstance, desperately thrashing about in vain to keep his freedom. Not only freedom from incarceration after his violent outburst, but to maintain his freedom of choice and his own economic freedom. To that extent, I certainly can empathize with him even if I don't condone his actions. This system of hypocrisy breeds this sort of violence and rebellion.

If a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy, there is nothing the father can do about it. He can not insist that the child be born, cannot sue the woman if she chooses to kill the unborn against his wishes. She does not even have to tell him that she is pregnant or going for an abortion in the first place.

Yet when it serves the purposes of women, children suddenly becomes a "mutual" choice and responsibility. If the man decides he does not want to be father, or simply can't be a father under his current circumstances for any reason, he's shit out of luck. Not only does he have no say in whether or not that child is brought into the world, but then he is also forced to pay for it against his will, quite often literally beyond his financial means to do so even if he wanted to. Other men simply may not want to fill the role of a father, which every child certainly should have. Single parent homes are far from ideal despite what we as a society have been brainwashed to believe. If a man does not want to be a father, then he should not be forced to be. When you do force him, you wind up with situations like this one reported above, maybe worse. Or, more commonly, men who begrudgingly and halfheartedly try to meet "their responsibility" as women and the government become loathed, and even his own children become objects of pain and hatred rather than love and pride.

Of course, there is the tired old excuse that the man should wear a condom if he does not want to be a father. Sorry folks, that shit don't fly with me. Women have far more choices when it comes to birth control, up to and including termination of a pregnancy (or simply insisting that the man wear a condom in the first place.) With rights comes responsibility. Why should the man be responsible for the WOMAN'S CHOICE? It is not a shared responsibility, it is not a mutual decision, it is the woman's choice, plain and simple, as this news article makes abundantly clear. The woman is responsible for her own body, and the man has NO RIGHTS over whether or not "his" child is brought into the world.

Can I sue a woman who transmits some disease to me, knowing that she had a disease, because I chose to not wear a condom? Certainly not. And the same should go the opposite way. A woman should not be able to sue a man financially, for the consequences of the transmission of biological material, which she knew full well the potential consequences of. She could have gone on the pill, patch, shot, used the ring, foam, sponge, spermicide, diaphragm, implant, or female condom, insisted that the man wear a condom or simply elected to not have sex with a man who had no intention of being a father to a child. (Here's a hint ladies, if he didn't put a ring on it, he doesn't wanna be your baby-daddy.) A woman can also choose to abstain when she is most fertile and ovulating, and obviously much more likely to become pregnant. Short of that, the woman can still resort to the morning-after pill, and ultimately it is her choice, the woman's choice alone, whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term.

So long as it is "her body, her choice" then it is also her responsibility. She should have no right whatsoever to insist that a man participate in any way, financially or otherwise, with the rearing of that offspring that was the product of her choice, and her choice alone. Unless of course, we want to make it a truly mutual responsibility, and outlaw abortion without the consent of the father as well. With freedom comes responsibility.



SUPPLEMENTAL:

Technically, in some instances a woman can also be guilty of illegal abortion under NY Penal Code. But basically, those amount to abortions that are done outside of a clinical setting under the care of a sanctioned physician. You will also notice too though, the gender bias applied to such cases. Keep in mind here too, that these laws make no distinction as to the willingness of the female to participate in an abortional act perpetrated by a man. In other words, even if the woman does not want the baby, but the man commits the abortional act on her behalf, he is STILL guilty of a felony.

S 125.40 Abortion in the second degree.
A person is guilty of abortion in the second degree when he commits an
abortional act upon a female, unless such abortional act is justifiable
pursuant to subdivision three of section 125.05.
Abortion in the second degree is a class E felony.


S 125.45 Abortion in the first degree.
A person is guilty of abortion in the first degree when he commits
upon a female pregnant for more than twenty-four weeks an abortional act
which causes the miscarriage of such female, unless such abortional act
is justifiable pursuant to subdivision three of section 125.05.
Abortion in the first degree is a class D felony.


S 125.50 Self-abortion in the second degree.
A female is guilty of self-abortion in the second degree when, being
pregnant, she commits or submits to an abortional act upon herself,
unless such abortional act is justifiable pursuant to subdivision three
of section 125.05.
Self-abortion in the second degree is a class B misdemeanor.


S 125.55 Self-abortion in the first degree.
A female is guilty of self-abortion in the first degree when, being
pregnant for more than twenty-four weeks, she commits or submits to an
abortional act upon herself which causes her miscarriage, unless such
abortional act is justifiable pursuant to subdivision three of section
125.05.
Self-abortion in the first degree is a class A misdemeanor.

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

you said it all... and well... and not that you'd know it since you can't see me here, but this is from a woman

Station Six Underground said...

I thank you ma'am. The truth is, the way things are set up now, women are being disenfranchised, even brainwashed by a complex socio-economic agenda bent on destroying the family unit.

Anonymous said...

you are a complete idiot and need to study up on some women's rights history as well as many other things. please, until then, shut the fuck up.

Anonymous said...

and to whoever said "women are being disenfranchised, even brainwashed by a complex socio-economic agenda bent on destroying the family unit." using big words doesn't mean you know what you are talking about. seriously. i feel like I have stepped into a parallel universe. who the hell are you people?!

Station Six Underground said...

Temper temper. Try some proper use of capitals before you go shooting off at the mouth about what I may or may not have studied. As a matter of fact, I am well versed in history and have a degree in sociology. So thank you for your replies, but now you can kindly shut the fuck up. Thanks for playing.

See that folks? This is precisely the sort of venomous reaction you can expect by those who have been so well programmed and indoctrinated into this destructive system. Rather than even addressing the points in a civilized constructive debate, the commenter resorts to logical fallacies and personal insults which do nothing to provide a legitimate counterpoint to anything that was said in this article.

Station Six Underground said...

You might want to check this out too...

http://stationsixunderground.blogspot.com/2011/05/after-getting-flamed-by-anonymous.html

Anonymous said...

I just seriously lost respect for this news site.
As a woman I am truly disappointed, and will search out alternative news on sites respectful of woman and jews. I won't waste anymore time here-so thanks for revealing who you really are...

Anonymous said...

It all boils down to personal responsibility. Both partners need to protect themselves and not rely on the other to do the right thing. If he doesn't want a baby then it is his duty to protect HIMSELF--NOT leave it up to the woman because she has more choices. And if it's really all that unfair, keep your zipper SHUT and move on.

Anonymous said...

I agree mostly with this blog post

Anonymous said...

Who said anything about Jews? And for that matter, who is disrespecting women here? By saying that women should be more responsible and that there should be gender equality?

Anonymous said...

It's not personal responsibility when only the WOMAN has the choice. If a man needs to keep his zipper shut, them maybe women should stop being stupid sluts and get married before they get pregnant.

Anonymous said...

That guy had no right to do that to that woman. But women need to start making better choices when it comes to the men they choose as fathers for their babies.

Anonymous said...

i dont think those "feminist" posters up above me really understand what they are doin. i have three kids and i can tell you that the fastest way to have a fight between kids is to only give one of them a toy. it takes a smarter maturer child to share the toy with the others. all these woman's rights are merely a way to control woman by a)making them feel securely superior and b) giving them a way to make money off a child with child support and c)causing men and woman to isolate themselves sexually and commit more idiotic births. we need to come together and revise these rules. we need to not favor any parent. and i think if both parents arent cut out for a child give it to someone that will love them and make both their dumbasses pay child support. its takes two to tango.

Station Six Underground said...

Some food for thought regarding "feminism" as a political concept...

http://stationsixunderground.blogspot.com/2011/03/feminism-was-created-to-destabilize.html

teresa b said...

i am a 26 year old woman, and i love this article. very thought provoking. i was just reading this question on yahoo answers..
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090424122306AAi8pGB

and i was so disgusted that this woman CHOSE to get pregnant and then starts whining that her life is more precious than the child she purposely chose to have. id be terrified to have a mother like her.

i have never understood why abortion is legal, if a woman doesnt want to get pregnant (which i respect that there are some women that dont want kids) why doesnt she get her tubes tied? my mom did that when she was done having kids.

i heard that by legal definition abortion is not illegal, because its without "malicious intent" so stealing a baby the chance of living is not malicious?

it sickens me that people can go to prison for murdering a baby (or anyone for that matter) when just a few months before when they were still in the womb their lives were worthless and dispensable. if abortion is legal, murder should be legal as well. i sincerely dont see the difference at all.

i have a lot of respect for you for writing this article. thanks! dont listen to the negative comments, people like to spout a lot of excuses and justificaation to ease the guilt they feel at the thought that they are standing by while an innocent child is robbed of their life. i dont abortion will ever be illegal, its sad that the mother that chose to create the child has rights, but the poor baby is not given basic human rights.

by the way everyone knows that a baby has a heartbeat 18 days after being created right? people want to focus on thinking that its just a ball of cells, ignoring the face that the ball of cells has a heart that is beating and trying to live.

The Captain said...

Thanks for ringing in on the topic Teresa B. I caught a lot of shit over this article, and it's nice to see some objectivity from a lady, because frankly, it has mostly been women who have been flaming me.

Now I can't say that I am for outlawing abortion, though I can't say that from a moral standpoint I am for abortion either.

But for me, it is the hypocrisy of reproductive rights between men and women that most infuriates me. And I do believe that same hypocrisy actually keeps the abortion clinics running in overtime.

It is not enough to ban abortion. It is better to remove the need for abortion in the first place. I do believe that there are cases where abortion is the best choice, even necessary. What I do not believe in though, is using abortion as a scape-goat for the social-cancers we suffer as a supposedly civilized people.

teresa b said...

i understand your hesitancy on abortion being illegal. when i think of little girls (some under 10) that are raped and get pregnant, it would be dangerous and unfair to the little girl to go through with the pregnancy. and there are some cases where if the abortion is not done both the mother and child will die.

abortion however is really mostly used as a convenience for women to get rid of a burden they dont want. and sadly men have no say over the matter, i feel so bad for men that actually would want the baby to be born and they have no say over the matter. yet they are forced to pay child support even tho women like to say that the whether the baby lives or dies is up to us because we carry it.

we get to choose whether or not to kill it and take responsibility of owning the babies life, but we can still demand payment from men? there is a lot of hypocrisy and unfairness when it comes to men in womens rights when it comes to children.

The Captain said...

The point could be argued that it is still better off for an irresponsible woman to abort rather than to have a child that she does not want. But the flip side of that quarter is that such a woman will probably still wind up cranking out a "baby-for-profit" at some point anyway once she finds a man to fit the bill.

When choices between evils is the choices we are making, you know we are far from Heaven.

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